Christian Seibold the only problem that I can foresee with this is the scenario that was similarly encountered with hashtags - people posting irrelevant content into too many communities. The original intent of the request was to enable users to (judiciously) add visibility to their World posts and boost attention for a community. Putting limits on at the start will predicate how (and if) people actually use the feature.

Ideflex Yeah, that's true. It could also incentivize duplicate communities because people no longer have to choose where to post.

I have thought about this more after I posted it. I think having the World + feature also kinda breaks the original intent with the way feeds work. The idea was that when you follow someone, you don't have to see their stuff in communities you don't like, especially for things like politics. If we added World+1, this could incentivize everyone to World+1, which breaks the whole concept of not seeing everything from those you follow (which I think is a great concept, actually).

Maybe Massimo Raimondi has opinions on this.

Christian Seibold the current way makes total sense to me. If you want a public post for everyone to see, post to the world. If you want a post specific to a topic, post to a community. I think the issue arises from the fact people want to be noticed, rightly so. World + 1 made sense in the old paradigm where only followers saw your posts. But this is no longer true (at least on the web version, mobile will follow) because world posts are now seen platform wide in the public feed.

Another way to look at it is we can incorporate more feed options rather than more post options. Easier and solves the same problem. Thoughts?

Massimo Raimondi Yeah, I agree with you. I think World+1 isn't necessary because of the public tab, but I also think there's the downside of everyone using it way too much. For example, say one of my followers doesn't like politics, so they intentionally didn't join any politics communities, but they like some of my stuff, so they follow me. If I posted everything in World+1, then that follower ends up seeing all of my posts in politics communities, even though they intentionally didn't join those communities. So I think we shouldn't have World+1.

However, one thing is making getting to the public tab easy and intuitive. I think that might need to be worked on. Here's another request I posted about that: https://openspacesocial.canny.io/feature-requests/p/web-combine-home-and-world-pages

Massimo Raimondi Also, not only are world posts seen platform wide, but all community posts in public communities can be seen platform wide as well. So I think World+1 is outdated now.

Apparently additional clarification is in order to fully flesh out my original concept. It doesn’t have to be that complicated:

A) posts to world+1 would have a designation beside the user avatar of 🌎 the World circle (or whatever icon you decide upon for your new public feed) and any additional community (say Cats, for example). Even if users belong to the additional community, they will only see the post in their home feed once - if they do not belong to the additional community, then they have an indication of where the post is also aimed and they may visit and join there as well. It is a way to promote more community interaction.

b) current posts to World are now only seen in the home feed of those following you and now with the public feed update, potentially by all Openspace users. In World+1 this remains the same.

B) posts with the additional +1 will appear in that community. All Users that are members of that community will see it.

The idea of World+1 is not “outdated” - it is a different way to enhance community engagement, which was originally the aim of all those communities under the categories. Funneling every post into a public feed is fine for those users who have the time to scroll through endless posts (much of which they may not be interested in or engage with) - for those who don’t want to be overwhelmed by content, World+1 offers a glimpse into where others may also be active.

Ideflex What about followers that intentionally don't want to see a person's posts in a particular community? If we add this feature, then we also need to add a feature to mute communities, which has already been asked for here on canny I believe. That seems overcomplicated to me when currently the way people avoid certain topics and communities from all of those they follow is by intentionally joining certain communities.

I worry about the overuse of world+1.

As of this morning, I’m on sabbatical so I’m done discussing this and any other issues related to Openspace. Hope you get it sorted the way you want as you seem to have a particular vision for the best UI/UX for the platform.

Massimo Raimondi best of luck going forward.

Ideflex Hi there,

no need to quite this topic or openspace because the message isnt getting through. I hear you loud and clear and still see a benefit for this feature as it gives people notice of what community a post was uploaded to, and gives exposure to that community publicly. Makes total sense.

The Public feed, along with trending and explore, is simply another view into the content and really is a separate feature altogether. It was easier to implement too, which is why I prioritized it first. The world +1 involves a bigger build because the way posts are set up now will involve us having to duplicate the post twice in the backend rather than saving it once and referencing it twice in the front end. (I think that is what you mean by a post label indicating a globe and the community). Karthik and I will need to dive deeper into figuring out what the effort is before implementing so we don't unintentionally use up server space.

On a side note, Christian Seibold Ideflex. You are both valuable contributors to the community and I appreciate your suggestions so much. But please know that opinions are important to keep the creative juices flowing. If a feature is getting voted up, there is a reason for it and it should be investigated and prioritized by me and Karthik. Let's respect each others contributions and have open communication. Thank you again.

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Massimo Raimondi I just want to say that I am not dismissing a contribution because of the person who created it, I just respectfully disagree with the feature itself. It seems to go against Okuna's original intentions with the home/subscriptions feed, which was that I still stand by this opinion, and no answer has been given in solving this issue. I would love to hear one instead of my concerns being dismissed.

If people's position is that they don't think this is a big problem and that moving away from Okuna's original idea for the home feed is fine, then I will accept that.

But I think we should make discoverability of communities easier in ways that do not break/remove the core elements of the social network.

Massimo Raimondi I'm going to take a step away from Canny. I just asked a question, gave my honest opinion on why I think we shouldn't remove one of the most unique features of the social network.

I just want to note that there might be many more users on Openspace that would not like this change, but we don't know because there's no downvotes or because they don't know how to use Canny, or know that it exists. This should also be considered. But more importantly, users, including me and everyone else, don't always know what's best for the platform, and you should do what aligns with your future plans and goals for the platform.

Christian Seibold what feature is being removed here?

Massimo Raimondi thank you! not quitting, just have soooo much work. You know what that’s like 😆

Ideflex I certainly do!

Ideflex - Exactly. That way readers will see it in their Home feed, and in the community if they so choose to go there, though it will not appear in duplicate in their home feed.

Dave Kerschbaum Massimo Raimondi

I imagine that dev would have to test viability for either World +1 or Community +1 first. While the goal of the feature is to increase post visibility, the risk of it becoming a temptation for serial posting is great, so limits would solve that problem - how many is to be seen.